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2019 F-150 3.5 EcoBoost rattles for two seconds on cold start, is this the cam phaser TSB?

AnsweredAsked by jenna_hauls_horsesAug 23, 2025in Truck talk
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jenna_hauls_horsesOP
Work TruckEau Claire, WI
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2019 F-150 Lariat SuperCrew, 3.5 EcoBoost, 71,400 miles, bought used in 2023 at a dealer in Eau Claire. the last two weeks when it is under 50 out it makes a rattle for about two seconds on cold start, like a handful of bolts in a coffee can up front, then it is gone and the truck runs perfect all day. no check engine light. i haul a 2 horse bumper pull most weekends through november.

i have read enough to be scared of the words cam phaser. is that what this is, is there really a TSB, and can i keep towing on it until i get it in?

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al_turns_wrenches
High MilerFargo, ND
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that is the phasers. two seconds of marbles on a cold start, quiet once oil pressure is up, no light. it is the locking pin in the variable cam timing phaser not holding while the engine builds pressure. 2017 to 2020 3.5 EcoBoost is the range, and yes there is a TSB, 21-2315, which replaces both phasers and the VCT solenoids and does a PCM update. a lot of trucks got it under the 5 year 60,000 powertrain. at 71k you are past that unless you bought an ESP plan with the truck in 2023, so dig out that paperwork.

cost out of pocket: at our store it is about 2,400 with the updated phasers, solenoids and a look at the timing set. a good independent that has done a few of them will be 1,600 to 1,800. do not let anybody sell you a chain and guides on top unless they show you a stretched chain, most of these at 71k are fine.

can you tow on it: yes, for now. the rattle is not eating anything today, it is telling you the pin is worn. what you do not want is another year of cold starts, because then the phaser starts working on the sprocket and the job grows. get it done before it is 20 degrees in the barn lot every morning.

put your VIN into the owner side of ford.com first. it shows open recalls and any customer satisfaction program on your truck and it costs you nothing.

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tundra_holdout
High MilerBillings, MT
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not helpful, but this thread is why i have a 2019 Tundra with 141,000 and a 5.7 that sounds the same at minus 20 as it did new. it gets 15 miles to the gallon and the interior is from 2007. i will take the trade.

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jenna_hauls_horsesOP
Work TruckEau Claire, WI
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called around. Ford store here quoted 2,380 with tax, three days out. independent in Chippewa Falls that the barn manager uses quoted 1,650 and said he has done nine of them this year. no ESP on my 2023 paperwork, i checked. two more questions: does the oil weight matter for this, the last shop put 5w20 in it and the cap says 5w30. and should i be pulling the horses on it for the next three weekends or is that pushing it?

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al_turns_wrenches
High MilerFargo, ND
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5w30 on a 2019 3.5. the cap is right and the shop was wrong, and it matters a little, the pin holds better at the correct viscosity when it is cold. switch it at the next change, Motorcraft or any real synthetic. pull the horses. the trailer is not what is wearing the pin, cold starts are. let it idle a couple of minutes before you leave the yard, that is all. the guy in Chippewa Falls at 1,650 who has done nine is who i would use.

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jenna_hauls_horsesOP
Work TruckEau Claire, WI
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done at the independent, 1,710 out the door with the oil change to 5w30. he showed me the old phasers, you can move the pin with a fingernail on one of them. chain was fine, he measured it. 28 degrees this morning and it started like a new truck. hauled two horses to a clinic in Menomonie the same afternoon. thanks al.

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